Allplan Forum: Reports: Baugruppe, "Null etfernen

EiPM_Xavi

13.12.2016 - 16:46 Uhr

Hi all,

We have some questions about creating reports:
- What is "Baugruppe" and whats mean his value?
- What is "Null etfernen"/RemoveZero, and whats mean when is activated or with the valuer=1?

I upload 2 images to explain it.

Best regards!
Xavier

Xavier Coll • Architect, Project Manager I+D, BIM Manager, BIM Auditor
EiPM • http://www.eipm.es/en/

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Bertrand_C

15.12.2016 - 12:30 Uhr * [Hilfreichste Antwort]

Hi Xavier,
"Remove zero" means that the values with a quantity at 0 will not be displayed.
For "Baugruppe", I'm not sure then I prefer to say nothing...

I answered to your question also in the French separate forum "allplanleforum.eu".

EiPM_Xavi

15.12.2016 - 14:41 Uhr

Thanks Bertrand_C for your answer!
It's very useful.

Mmmm... somebody knows what is "Baugruppe" and whats mean his value?

Thanks!
Xavier Coll

Xavier Coll • Architect, Project Manager I+D, BIM Manager, BIM Auditor
EiPM • http://www.eipm.es/en/

fkeim

15.12.2016 - 14:59 Uhr *

I found this List in the Report Documentation from Allplan 2012
I´m not realy sure, if this is the right information.

Report Types
List of Report-Types (set in the FROM Section):
 Type=0: Standard Architecture Report (evaluates Arch Elements only)
 Type=1: Standard Engineering Report (evaluates Rebars and Meshes only)
 Type=2: Sub-Query for listing Living Space in Rooms and Story-Reports
 Type=3: Sub-Query for arch. Components due to their unit (Abrechnungsart)
 Type=4: Formwork Reports
 Type=5: Sub-Query in order to group elements (not needed for Reports – was used in old Lists)
 Type=6: Special Steel-Lists
 Type=7: Smart Fit Elements
 Type=8: Digital Terrain Models
 Type=9: Sub-Query for Geometry of arch. Components
 Type=10: Sub-Query for Attribute Information
 Type=11: Precast Elements
 Type=18: DIN 277 – Sub-Query for comprehensible volume analyses of rooms and stories
(nachvollziehbare Volumenberechnung von Räumen und Geschossen nach DIN 277)
 Type=19: Sub-Query for comprehensible volume analysis (arch. Components)
 Type=34: Sub-Query for comprehensible area analysis of rooms and stories (nachvollziehbare
Flächenberechnung von Räumen und Geschossen nach DIN 277)
 Type=35: Sub-Query for comprehensible ground area analysis of arch. Components (nachvollziehbare
Grundflächenberechnung von Architekturbauteilen)
 Type=51: Sub-Query for comprehensible floor area analysis of arch. Components (nachvollziehbare
Bodenflächenberechnung von Architekturbauteilen)
 Type=67: Sub-Query for comprehensible ceiling area analysis of arch. Components (nachvollziehbare
Deckenflächenberechnung von Architekturbauteilen)
 Type=83: Sub-Query for comprehensible vertical surface area analysis (nachvollziehbare
Seitenflächenberechnung)
 Type=99: Sub-Query for comprehensible middle area analysis of walls (nachvollziehbare
Mittelflächenberechnung von Architekturbauteilen durchzuführen: Wände)
 Type=115: Sub-Query for comprehensible Length Calculation for room-baseboards, Length Calculation in
city and landscaping planning (Längenberechnung von Leisten, Städtebau- und Landschaftsbaulinien)
 Type=227: Sub-Query for comprehensible Formwork Areas of Ceilings, Beams, Columns fort he trade
concreting works (Schalungsberechnung von Decken, Unterzügen, Stützen bei Gewerk Betonarbeiten)

Viele Grüße
Florian

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EiPM_Xavi

15.12.2016 - 15:48 Uhr *

Thank fkeim for your answer, I know this pdf, it's vey useful (thanks a lot to share it)
But your answer is not correct: this list is for "report types", but is not a list of "Baugruppe".

I upload two images:

- 01 Baugruppe Question: this is my fisrt question of this thread.

- 02 Report Type list: some comments about "Report Type list". In this another thread, I posted a question about "Report Type list":
https://connect.allplan.com/de/forum/themen/topic/topics/cad-listen-reports-variables-beschriftungsbild/reports-report-type-list-and-explanation.html

Thanks and best regards,
Xavier Coll

Xavier Coll • Architect, Project Manager I+D, BIM Manager, BIM Auditor
EiPM • http://www.eipm.es/en/

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Bimplus_VK…

15.12.2016 - 21:47 Uhr *

Hi Xavier,

I've been working on Reports for quite some time. So here's my two cents on this.

The only documentation on this feature I ever came across is from the Tech Doc 2012 which has already been mentioned above.

On page 53 you'll find a super short explanation <<"baugruppe" - Catalogue Evaluation, e.g. IBD>>

It seems to be related to the different catalogues that can be set under "Optionen (Options) > Kataloge (Catalogues)"

Baugruppe in general is a common term for a specific set of elements i.e. walls, columns, slabs etc.

As far as I know the Allplan BCM system makes heavy use of these Baugruppen. (and IBD seems to be, too)

My best guess is that they somehow filter the reports against a given catalogue of elements.

Since our office uses a different system, we get the Bauteile directly from our AVA software.

So far there was no need to change the value.

Would be interesting to know if you find any further information, though.

Best regards
Patrick

EiPM_Xavi

16.12.2016 - 12:26 Uhr

Thanks for your answer, Patrik!

It's very interesting... Yes, I'm agree with you, in the "2012 Report Manual" there is this little short explanation.
I will continue searching the answers to those questions....

Best regards,
Xavier

Xavier Coll • Architect, Project Manager I+D, BIM Manager, BIM Auditor
EiPM • http://www.eipm.es/en/

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